This week, we reposted the article Ancient Wooden Door Has ‘Remarkable’ Design, originally posted by The Institute for Creation Research.  We received a number of comments concerning this article that I thought were worth addressing.

From Steve:

The article is interesting, but the author destroyed his credibility and did serious damage to the credibility of the article by making the claim that no artifacts made by humans prior to the flood survived. The author needs to read the Bible before making such claims. The Bible says the flood killed all living things, but it says nothing about non-living things. It is highly probable that a lot of human artifacts would have survived, as, according to the Bible, the flood waters receded after 150 days. That is about 5 months. The Titanic has been under water for much longer than that and a lot of it is still intact. Dinosaurs also existed before the flood, but there is no mention of them anywhere in the human recorded history in the Bible, so it is clear that humans and dinosaurs and did not exist at the same time. But yet dinosaur bones survived the flood, so it is logical to assume that some human artifacts also survived.

From Jonathan:

I agree with you Steve that there doesn’t seem to be any reason why, in principle, pre-flood artifacts wouldn’t survive the deluge. That being said, the flood would have likely done more destruction to artifacts than the titanic did to items on board. Violent geological activity certainly would be doing a great deal more damage than a sinking ship.

Regarding dinosaurs, the fact that the Bible doesn’t mention “dinosaurs” doesn’t mean they didn’t co-exist with man. The Bible doesn’t speak of salamanders or coelacanths, yet we know they co-exist with man. Remember, the term “dinosaur” wasn’t even invented until the 19th century, so we shouldn’t be looking for that word in the Bible anyway.

Response to Steve:

Since the word dinosaur was first created in 1841, anyone writing about them prior to that time would have used other terms and that includes the Bible. I would direct your attention to Job 40 & 41 and the descriptions of Behemoth and Leviathan. Some Bible notes list these animals as a hippo, elephant or crocodile, but none of those animals match the description of the animals being referred to. If you read the chapters prior, you find mention of other real animals, so we know that Behemoth and Leviathan were real animals. If you carefully examine the description of the Behemoth, the only animal that fits that description would be a large sauropod dinosaur. For more on this, read Could Behemoth have been a dinosaur? There are many other descriptions of animals through history that could very well be dinosaurs. The famous historian Herodotus wrote about winged creatures that were likely pterosaurs – Egyptian history and the biblical record: a perfect match? Another such depiction is the brass carvings on the tomb of Bishop Bell who lived in the 1400′s. A number of known and identifiable animals are engraved in brass on his tomb and one of those animals is a perfect depiction of a sauropod – Bishop Bell’s brass behemoths!

For more on dinosaurs and the Bible, I would recommend you purchase Dinosaurs and the Bible and/or Dragons or Dinosaurs.

From Dave:

While I accept that the Flood certainly killed all of humanity except those in the Ark, there seems to be a real leap of faith to say that the Flood “obliterated human artifacts.” I see no reason, either theological or scientific, for a statement like that. It is unsupportable by facts or reason.

Response to Dave & Steve:

The Bible does tell us that it was more than just humanity that was killed off during the Flood.  2 Peter 3:3-6 says: This first understand, that there shall come in the last days, mockers, which will walk after their lusts, And say, Where is the promise of his coming?  For since the Fathers died, all things continue alike from the beginning of the creation.  For this they willingly know not, that the heavens were of old, and the earth that was of the water, and by the water, by the word of God.  Wherefore the world that then was, perished, overflowed with the water.

The Greek word used for ‘world ‘is ‘cosmos’.  Cosmos refers to the planet earth, not just to humanity or life.  It is an all inclusive term that included man, animals, trees, hills, mountains, rivers, buildings, etc.  The WORLD perished.

You also need to remember that the Flood of Noah’s day was not just a quiet and calm rising and lowering of water.  The Flood would have involved extremely strong currents, tidal waves and hypercanes, as evidenced in the geologic record of the Flood.  You can read more about hypercanes and Flood at Hypercanes: Rainfall Generators During the Flood?.

The effects of devastating tidal waves are seen today.  The tidal wave that hit the coasts India, Thailand, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Maldives, and Myanmar in Dec. 2004 completely obliterated entire villages.  I recall watching the news when it showed the site of one village and the ground had been scraped clean, leaving not a single trace of it ever having been there.  The tidal wave activity during the Flood would have been even greater than the Christmas tidal wave.

Dr. David Catchpoole wrote an interesting article on the effects of a tranquil flood verses the Genesis Flood.  Dr. Andrew Snelling also wrote an excellent article on human fossils and artifacts that will answer most of your questions.  I highly recommend you read these two articles.

From Louis:

“It is unsupportable by facts or reason.” The flood itself is unsupported by facts or reason.

Response to Louis:

If you say that the Flood is unsupported by fact or reason, I would like to ask how you explain the fact that the majority of the Earth is covered by thousands of feet of sedimentary layers?  Some of these layers stretch across thousands of miles.  I would highly recommend you consider the following materials that will help provide the facts you are after:

Genesis Flood Fact or Fiction

Biblical Geology: Properly Understanding The Rocks

Your Guide to the Grand Canyon

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