This past week, we posted an article from Creation Matters, one of the publications put out by the Creation Society. The article dealt with the topic of whether or not animals ate meat before the Flood. We received several interesting comments that I thought worth adding to.
Hello, I’ve enjoyed reading this article, but I find myself questioning the automatic assumption that it is the consumption of meat that God was referring to when he said all flesh had become corrupt.
I will point out that the first account in the Bible of the killing and use of animal flesh can be read in Genesis 3:21. Not to mention that God used the word “cattle” in Genesis 3:14 when speaking to the serpent.
Finally, God was pleased with Abel’s sacrifice of animal flesh. It is more likely that it is HOW all flesh was trying to procreate that God found corrupt, as the account in Genesis 6:1-8 suggests.
That being said, I believe the life we would’ve had in the Garden of Eden was God’s best for us, including our diet. But we are not there; the demands on our bodies outside the Garden, require nutrients, some of which, that can only be acquired though the consumption of meat.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this subject; I welcome further discussion.
I don’t believe the author of the article was stating that all of the corruption God was referring to dealt with the eating of meat rather he was saying that the eating of meat was included in the total corruption. He states in his article:
People had corrupted their way and “cast[ed] off” God’s laws. The animals had apparently done the same. The phrase “corrupted his way” indicates people were involved in every sin imaginable. Animals were only given two commandments, however: multiply and eat plants (Genesis 1:22, 28, 30). Of course they did not stop reproducing, but these verses seem to indicate that at least some animals were not following God’s command to eat plants.
In your next to last paragraph, you mentioned how our diets outside the Garden of Eden would be lacking and in need of eating meat to fulfill certain nutritional requirements. I agree that our diets changed after being evicted from the Garden, but that it wasn’t necessary to eat meat for nutritional purposed until after the Flood.
There are a great many plants found in the fossil record (evidence of the Flood) that no longer grow these days. Most likely, there were a larger variety of fruits, nuts and vegetables available to the post-Fall pre-Flood world that quite possibly could have supplied all of the nutritional needs at that time. After the Flood, many plants no longer grew, thus diminishing the supply of necessary nutrients.
More importantly, if man’s diet was so deficient after the Fall but prior to the Flood, one would think that God would have told him then it was okay to eat meat, rather than wait until after the Flood to tell Noah this. The Flood occurred 1656 years after Creation and Adam’s Fall. That’s a very long time for mankind to exist on a nutritionally deficient diet while waiting for God to give His permission to eat meat.
Yes, that may have been part of the corruption that was taking place, but that does not mean that everyone so partook of meat. For Noah to have found grace in the eyes of the Lord and be saved and then told it was okay to eat meat tells me that Noah and his family did not eat meat prior to that instruction. I pray this makes sense.
From Tim P:
Genesis 9, which is pointed to in the article, implies that God had a restriction on the eating of meat. I am sure that those whom God referred to as corrupt were eating meat. Animals, however, I believe would have still had that God given instinct to eat plants. Only after the flood when the earth’s vegetation would be much more scarce did He remove that instinct.
I understand what you are saying, but I would agree with the author of the article in saying that the corruption among animals after the Fall was largely due to some of them eating meat and not plants as God had commanded. In addition to the reasons that the author gave Scripturally, I also base my response on the vast evidence found in the fossil record.
The Flood was the most catastrophic event in history. It destroyed everything on earth except what was on board the Ark or survive in the turbulent waters. The Flood laid down tremendous amounts of silt and soil, burying the pre-Flood world and preserving some of it for us to study today. Contained in those fossils is a number of evidences of predator prey activity. We find numerous bones with teeth impressions in them from other animals. In the same article the author has photos of such predation. One shows the skull of an Edmonotosaurus with the bite marks of a T rex in it. The other is a plate from the back of a Stegosaurus that has a distinct tooth mark in it. I personal have seen several dinosaur bones with numerous teeth marks on them that matched both young and adult Allosaurus. We know that it was a family of Allosaurus that fed on the other dinosaur because several of their teeth, young and adult were also found at the same location and the tooth patterns on the bones matched those teeth.
There are too many indications of predation in the fossil record, which really is a record of life at the time of the Flood, to believe that animals did not eat meat until after the Flood and when God told Noah that he could now eat meat.
I hope and pray this makes sense to you and helps you understand the corruptness of the world prior to the Flood.
Additionally, and this has absolutely nothing to do with when animals ate meat, I often wonder just how corrupt that world was to cause to destroy it. When I look at the corruptness of our world today, especially now when our government is embracing homosexuality and other sins as being acceptable, it’s hard to believe it could have been much worse than today.
God did promise another judgment to come, but with fire this time and not water. Sometimes I wonder just how close we are to that judgment and if there is any real hope of avoiding it. That’s why I urge everyone to follow 2 Chronicles 7:14 which says,
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
This and only this will save America from becoming as corrupt as the pre-Flood world and from God’s judgment and destruction.
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