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Does Noah’s Ark Still Exist?

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For years we have heard reports of the discovery of Noah’s Ark.  Some of the reports appear to be more credible than others, while some have been outright preposterous.  One thing is for sure, it is impossible for all of the reported findings to be true, for if they were there would be well over a dozen different Arks lying out in different locations.

However the underlying question that begs discussion is whether or not Noah’s Ark still exits today?  I have raised this question for a few years now and have had several members of the creationist community admit that some of my reasons for asking this question merit serious consideration.  Therefore, I would like to lay them out before all of you for your consideration.  Please allow me to add this disclaimer that I am not emphatically stating this theory to be factual, but it is worth serious discussion.

1.  Knowing how man is so tempted to worship objects and raise them up as idols, would God have allowed the Ark to survive?  Consider the golden calf in Exodus 32; Ashtoreth in 1 Kings 11; Baal in 1 Kings 16; works of their own hands in Jeremiah 1; queen of heaven in Jeremiah 44; Nebuchadnezzar’s golden image in Daniel 3; and the list goes on and on.  Consider how many people today still worship objects and creatures, including ‘Mother Earth’, instead of the Creator.

The same question can be asked about the Ark of the Covenant or the cup that Christ drank from.  Why is it that most of the important relics described in Scripture still remain missing?

2.  In Genesis 8, we are told that the Ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat not on Mount Ararat.  Depending on the source, the Region of Ararat (estimated in the shaded area) is a large region that contains several mountainous areas today and does not necessarily refer to a specific mountain.  Most likely there was still a significant amount of geologic upheaval and settling occurring after the Flood.  Some mountains would have been rising at a greater rate than they still are today.  The appearance of the earth to Noah would likely be much different than the same areas appear to us today.

The identity of the mountains of Ararat is still a subject of debate, but a number of creationists are convinced that the reference is not to modern Mt. Ararat, which has largely been built by post-Flood volcanic activity.  This is why all the supposed sightings of the Ark high on Mt. Ararat do not make sense, because the Ark can’t be between and among basalt layers that flowed out from eruptions since the Flood, or even late in the Flood.  The temperatures of the lavas would have burnt all the wood anyway!

3.   Again in Genesis 8, we are told that the Ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat, not at the top of the mountains, and then the waters continued to abate.

Usually, anything floating on subsiding water will continue to float until it catches on something or the water becomes too low at that location to float the object.  Wouldn’t it have made sense that the Ark would have done the same, and not landed near the top of the mountains, but lower down in a valley or plain in the mountains?  If the Ark had caught higher up, it most likely would have been tilted on the slopes, which could have been very problematic for Noah and his family and the animals.  Since God watched over Noah and the Ark to protect it during the Flood, wouldn’t he have continued to do so as the Flood subsided?

The problem is that the text of Scripture seems to imply that the Ark came to rest on the mountains before there were major peaks seen surrounding it, implying that perhaps continued tectonic movements raised the surrounding mountains so that the Ark, which initially landed on the highest spot, then ended up being in a less precarious situation, such as the lower slopes or a valley.  This may be reflected in the later comment in the narrative about the tops of the mountains being subsequently seen.

If the Ark had landed near the top of the mountains and then waters continued to recede, it would have made it very difficult for many of the animals to disembark from the Ark as many of them are not mountain worthy creatures.  Had the Ark landed in a valley or on a plain, it would have made it much easier for the animals to disembark and disperse.  It would have also have provided a suitable place for Noah and his sons’ families to settle.

4.  Upon disembarking from the Ark, Noah would have surely realized that he needed to build homes or shelters for him and for his three sons and their families.  There would not have been any standing forests immediately after the Flood.  It may have been possible for some driftwood to be lying around, but was there enough to provide for their needs?  Besides, any driftwood would have required all new carpentry which would have taken time.  The Ark would have provided a ready source of already cut and worked lumber.  Why wouldn’t they have started to cannibalize the Ark and the supplies it contained to build their homes in the land that God had placed them in?

Based upon the reasons listed above, I personally believe the chances that Noah’s Ark still exists are highly doubtful and as such will most likely never be found.  Could I be wrong?  Absolutely!  Could I be right?  Absolutely!  After reading this, where do you stand on the existence of Noah’s Ark?

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  • David Lagesse

    You make perfect sense with your well thought out article. Thank You!

    • Jonathan Sampson

      I agree with Mr. Lagesse. The arguments are well-communicated and very sound. I always wondered if the Ark were disassembled (in part or in whole) as a resource rather than left as a relic. It certainly makes sense – I’d probably do the same!

      • Michael Graham

        This is a very interesting and sound argument; however, on the cannibalization of the ark, I would wonder if they were used to building homes from lumber since most homes I’ve seen in the middle-east are built of stone–there would have perhaps been plenty of stone available after the flood.

    • Steve Spence

      I agree with Mr. Jolly, Lagesse, and others. It’s unlikely there’s anything left to find.

      • JoAnn

        I’ve read several commentaries on the Ark and where it might have been located.

        Your information makes the most sense to me. I can see why God wouldn’t leave things laying around. I forgot who he ‘took’ somewhere so that the people could not set up a tomb or monument to worship him. We are to worship only God.

        • EugeneR

          It was Moses.

    • John Bowman

      Dear Sir; Remember “But God !” All things are possible to him that beleiveth !
      Yous truly Learner2

    • Keith

      I am like you I don’t think the ark is still around today for the same reasons that they had to use somethingto build their homes out of May God Bless

  • Andre Flanagan

    Well communicated and thought provoking article. Thank you.

    I totally agree with the points 1 and 4 (and all the others but these 2 really struck home)

  • Peter DeVito

    wow,why didn’t anybody bring that idea up in the past? it seems so likely that that’s what happened.

  • Juanita Wagers

    This makes more sense to me than anything I have heard before. Very logical that the animals and Noah and his family would need a suitable place to disembark – high on a mountain would be rather difficult for all.

  • Evan

    Perhaps the existence of Noah’s Ark is the best kept government secret. Revealing the existence of the ark would be very, shall we say, problematic for anti-theistic political interests. After generations of concerted effort to tear down theism one brick at a time, serious blood will get spilled before governments allow this truth out.

  • Rodney Larson

    Ron Wyatt who is now deceased found what I believe to be the actual ark and makes a convincing case for it. The ark has all but disintegrated, but it’s footprint and wood fragments are still available to see today. Go to Ron Wyatts website and see for yourself. I agree with the points made, which is why the wood is all but eliminated, but a footprint for a ship of such size would certainly be left and it was, on the side of a mountain, on a flat plain…see for yourself!

    • Paul

      I agree with you that what ron found as he recorded is the ark. They even document the large stones that kept the ark from being tossed around witch makes perfect sense.

    • Steve Young

      I believe Ron Wyatt’s finding of the Ark photograph frozen in the ice and snow and the footprint evidence to be true.

      • R.L. David Jolly

        Steve – I strongly suggest you read some of the material dealing with Ron Wyatt’s claims, including the discovery of the Ark at

    • conservadiva

      Thank you for your post. I plan to check out your link. The Biblical references to the Golden Calf, and the Ark of the Covenant, do tell us what happened to them. One was melted down and the other taken into captivity. I believe that traces of the Ark could still be around. Much archeology uncovers astounding artifacts from Biblical history, including a reference to King David whose historical existence had been questioned until that fragment was found. We do not need to explain away why the Ark has been overlooked. I look forward to more archeological finds in the future!

  • Jim Pickett

    By admitting that the landscape has changed dramatically since Noah’s day are you not admitting that physical evolution has taken place? The same God created the mountains as created Man. The same argument against biological evolution applies here – why didn’t God build the mountains as he saw fit and not allow them to be destroyed and rebuilt over time? The answer is that we are presumptuous to question how God does anything and God’s universe is much more complex than we have been led to believe.

    • Jonathan Sampson

      I don’t think there are any concerns here, Mr. Pickett. Mountainous formations would be a natural result of the flood, as described in the scriptures.

      Many Creation Scientists believe the “fountains of the deep” to be a suggestion that there are sub-terrainian pockets of water that burst forth during the flood. If this is the case, as these pockets lessened, there would be sagging on the terrain above, causing valleys and mountains to form.

      Scripture tell us that animals will bring forth according to their kinds – and they have for all observable history. Scripture doesn’t suggest that mountains and valley’s won’t form – and we have seen this happen.

      We’ve been blessed with the opportunity to see many great things like this happen. One really great article that illustrates the power of moving water is A Canyon in Six Days!.

  • Richard T. Cunningham

    Not only would the wood have been precious but also the
    nails and dowel bits. Nothing was ever wasted in those days.
    At least not by those in God’s grace.

  • Bob

    Your article is very thought provoking. However, there is a web site,, that presents some compelling evidence that an archaeological researcher named Ron Wyatt has made several ancient discoveries. One being Noah’s Arc. I encourage you to go to the site and explore. Very interesting.

    • salim

      I’ve spoken & recorded wyatt’s presentation personally & as you listen carefully & take notes, he contradicts himself & tends to base his argument for being genuine on how official people responded to his claims in the countries where he claims them, not necessarily if there are scientific claims to it.

    • R.L. David Jolly

      I am well familiar with Ron Wyatt and his claim of finding the Ark. I know several well respected creation scientists who have examined Wyatt’s claim and have found it lacking. I suggest you check out several articles addressing Wyatt’s claim at:

  • Cephyr13

    I do wonder if Ron Wyatt’s discovery of a supposedly petrified portion of Noah’s Ark is legitimate. Petrified wood would be the only way it would survive, and if the earth were very humid or muddy when the ark landed (which it should be since the water would receed and set the ark down on very muddy land), then some of the ark could have been buried in the mud and petrified.

    The object he found is supposedly exactly the right size of the ark too, from front to back. I really can’t say if it’s the ark or not, but it’s an interesting find, nonetheless.

  • salim

    the writings of the most prolific female writer of all time, ellen white, tell us in her book patriarchs & prophets that noah’s ark could be found toward the end of time so as to sustain the faith in God.
    any backlash to cast doubt into being found is just another way for non-believers to battle against Christ in this earth.

  • Brent Theophilus

    Mountains have formed in recent years from volcanos,islands have formed the same way. The change in the Earth for 6000 years is no problem. Even the bronze serpent had to be distroied.

  • Maynard Duty

    As an older gentleman, I want everyone to understand I was not available to help Noah unload his ARK but am able to prodject what would have taken place if Noahs ARK was not on a level location at this time as men relate, it requires equalization in some form and a mountain top would have it limits, it tells me GOD was in control of all things and always will be in control.

  • Steve May

    I tend to agree with Mr. Jolly’s findings, but my heart and soul want the ark to be found, if for nothing else, to verify the existence of our Creator, and our Lord Jesus Christ. We Christians certainly need a break from all the thumb nosing by atheists and other religious faiths.

    • R.L. David Jolly

      Steve – I’m pleased that you saw the logic of my article. However, I don’t think finding the Ark will really help the unbelievers to believe. I think of the examples in Luke 22:66-67 or Mark 16:14 and a number of other verses as well. Doubting Thomas? What about the Israelistes with Moses in the wilderness that were eyewitnesses to God’s miracles at teh Red Sea, the pillar of fire, the manna and quail, teh water from the rock, etc.? They saw and still failed to believe, resulting in the golden calf, the grumblers and the reason that God kept an entire generation in the wilderness until they died before guiding them into the Promised Land. How many people were witnesses to Christ’s miracles and still did not believe that he was the Messiah.

      We have so many examples of people in Scripture that were eyewitnesses to the miracles of God and Christ and yet did not believe. Therefore, do you really think the Ark would help them believe? In all actuality, I think this is another reason why the Ark no longer exists.

  • Sandy

    I recently read a very interesting book called The Ark by Boyd Morrison. He presents an entirely different theory of what the ark really was (it is a fiction novel).

  • Ounbbl

    In my opinion, the so-called mountain of Ararat, or whatever appears in Genesis, is better to be read as ‘the mountainous region of Ararat’ to avoid misunderstanding.

  • Nancy

    An interesting and thoughtful article. I don’t know if the Ark still exists or not. My guess is, probably not. But as a person with a passion for history, I think it would be wonderful if it did! Not as an object to be worshipped, but as a historic artifact of the most magnificent proportion!

  • n2trophies

    I have a vedio showing the descovery of the Ark. Ron White found it where a earthquake moved part of it from the mountian. From what I saw there is a visitors center on the site. It is in Turkey.

    • R.L. David Jolly

      n2trophies – I believe you mean Ron Wyatt, not Ron White. See my response to Bob below for a link to a number of articles that address Wyatt’s alleged Ark discovery.

  • Robert Vance Sr.

    You have a very good point but I believe it is possible that God would have made it possible for the animals to travel down the mountain to level land and also Noah and his family to do the same. The Ark could have settled between rocks and was stuck there. The ark could very well still be there frozen in the ice. The ark could be a great discovery to show those non believers that the ark truly did exist and this could very well bring many to know the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • Zack

    Prophet Noah’s Ark (Nooh) (Peace be upon him) The Turkish government has also sent their own archaeological team, who recovered four intact metal rods, each about four foot long. These are now in the possession of the Ministry of Mines and Minerals, in Turkey. They have officially dedicated the site as a national park declaring it to be the remains of Noah’s Ark!
    Prophet Noah’s Ark (Peace be upon him) When tested the material at Galbraith Laboratories in Knoxville, Tennessee and it proved to be laminated, petrified wood. Tests for carbon showed that samples from the site contained much higher carbon content than the surrounding area. The specimen from the site proved to be 4.95% carbon, while the specimen from the surrounding area, tested at 1.88%. Thus, the specimen from the site had once been living matter. Such sophisticated alloys as iron, titanium and aluminium also proved to be present. With only a superficial inspection, the rib timbers and deck joists are clearly visible along the entire length of the ship.
    Prophet Noah’s Ark (Nooh) (Peace be upon him). In 1959, stereo photos where taken by a Turkish airline pilot of a boat shaped object on the mountains of Ararat for The Geodetic Institute of Turkey. It lay 6,300 feet above sea level, much too high to be the remains of a boat from a local flood. It is over 200 miles from the nearest sea. The dimensions were consistent with the Biblical description of Noah’s Ark in Gen. 6:15, measuring 300 cubits long. The width was greater than that mentioned in the Bible as the sides of the boat had splayed, which would be expected in a boat of that age.
    According to Holy Qur’an, the Ark rested, exactly at Mount Judi, when the matter ended, i.e. flood had done its job. Mount Judi seems to be part of same Mountain range (Mounts of Ararat) as mentioned in Genesis.
    However, its not too important for the believers to find the Ark. Important matter is to believe in the story of destruction of disbelievers of One True God, the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth and His Messenger Noah (peace and blessings be upon him).

  • Harold Blalock

    It’s a must see the video, “The Case for the Discovery of Noah’s Ark” with Arch Bonnema. You can Google his name to to watch it for free online. Prophecy in the News aired it and have a DVD with a 30 minute Arch Bonnema interview and a one hour talk with pictures by Arch Bonnema. I believe it will lift your faith and is something the world needs to see. I truly believe it’s one of the find of finds. You be the judge and I encourage you to always seek truth in everything you do. Order it @ 800-475-1111 or Share it with the world and above all the message of Jesus who is the real truth they really need.

    • conservadiva

      I checked out ARCH BONNEMA, very exciting video on YouTube, and has more of the photographic story. Samples sent to LABS of NASA check out, and further DNA evidence on related human and agricultural evidence offered by collaborating science labs. I will get the documentary they compiled. Thanks for your post! GREAT STUFF!

  • maneeshchty

    I agree with the article. It doesn’t make sense to believe a WOODEN Ark to resist all the temperatures and all the Gradations to exist till day. Even if it exists, God should be found not the objects. So Concentrate on how to find the Lord not the Veil/Ark/Grail/ ….
    Grace be to God

  • Lisa Shepherd

    You see in swamps and flooded areas today that trees do not die off due to the amount of water they have on them. Granted, we have not had the opportunity to view the results of an extensive and total flood as Noahs ark would have endured, but I do not believe that the forests died off.
    As to the building materials, there are vast amounts of materials available in any given area. Stone and mud are plentiful and are used today in much of the world in one form or another, were tree’s unavailable.
    The Bible does not go into extensive details of the “after-flood-days” of Noah and his family, so we will probably never know in this world the exact details.
    I do however believe the ark was most probably left in its original state or at the very least close to. My reasoning being, this was a mountain range, they were to repopulate the earth, how much farming could be accomplished on a mountain range with a large and growing family?
    Granted, I also believe God restored the earth to its fullness as the waters receded, he is after all the creator of this planet, and it was not his intent or desire to cause Noah and family to suffer, but to rather start afresh and new as a race.
    Were I to project my beliefs as to what occurred afterward, I would say they moved to flatter lands, more suitable for farming and livestock survival, to reestablish the human race.
    As to the ark and its fate, I would say they may have removed portions or parts, metals and such would indeed be a precious commodity at this point, but God also had them prepared for the after flood life they would begin, so did they indeed take any of the ark? That is highly questionable to me.
    However, I am not convinced the ark would have remained intact in an active and growing mountain range. Indeed, lava wreaks havoc on wood items. The question may ever remain unanswered.
    Bottom line, as many have said before me, to God is the Glory, and the Honor, and the Power, and the Blessings forevermore.
    Praise God.

    • R.L. David Jolly

      Lisa – Thank you for sharing your ideas with us.

      Comparing what happens in a swamp to what happened during Noah’s Flood is like comparing a gentle breeze to a tornado. 2 Peter 3:1-6 tells that the earth that was (referring to before the Flood), was deluged and perished. By perished, it means that everything on the earth was utterly and completely destroyed. The currents in the Flood would have ripped up the forests as well as most of the silt, sand, pebbles, rocks and boulders and redeposited them in the thousands of feet of sediment we find today. The coal fields found all over the earth are a testament to the destruction of the forests. Additionally, the currents durin gthe Flood would have to have been extremely strong to have ripped up so much soil. Trees would have fallen like toothpicks against such forces. Many local floods today will rip trees from the ground and carry them away and these local floods are nothing to the magnitude of the Genesis Flood.

      While it is true that Noah could have used rock or mud to build with, but would he when he had a ready supply of already worked timber?

      We can only speculate where the Ark landed. However, if it had finally come to rest on the lower slopes of the mountains or in a valley or plain, it woudl have been perfect conditions for his settling with the livestock and to start farming. Many people throughout the world still farm and graze livestock on mountian slopes.

      Like I said in the article, I am not being dogmatic and admit that I could possibly be wrong, but on otherhand, I could also be right.

      Another thing to consider, if any of the purported claims of the discovery of Noah’s Ark had been verified, wouldn’t you think that it would be one of the biggest news stories of the century? And those that have made claims and have proof – which one is the real Ark and which ones aren’t? They can’t all be the real thing.

      Just some thoughts to ponder.

  • Robert Burns

    Makes perfect sense to me. Almighty God says in the bible not to make graven images that we would be tempted to worship. There were MANY wonderful artisans during Jesus’s time on earth. No a single image in any media exists. Even the shroud of Turin is not biblical. The Gospels cleary say that the cloth that was wrapped around Jesus’s head was folded up and lay seperately from his burial shroud. The Turin “object” clearly shows the Messiah’s head (front and back) upon it. This shows how easily NON-biblically oriented
    (Roman church/ catholics) people can be mislead. If our faith relies on objects, its no faith at all. Faith, according to Paul, is the evidence of things NOT seen.
    shalom, bob

  • Zack

    tsunami.JPG (73KB) View Image

    This is a Real Picture, of natural flood of Tsunami, so you can have a little idea of what Naoah’s flood could have been.

    The Last Picture. There are people who believe in God, there are others who don’t believe, but we must understand that we are small when nature hits…

    This picture was taken on the banks of Sumatra Island , Indonesia (the height of waves were approx.105 ft).
    It was found saved in a digital camera,18 months after the disaster. We cannot know for sure, but very likely the one who took the picture is not alive any more. Today we can see the last image he/she saw before the end of his/her life on Earth.

  • Zack

    It would be nice to find the Ark from historical point of view, not from Spiritual point of view. A Believer does not worship neither the Ark nor Noah (peace and blessings of Almighty Creator be upon him). A true Believer Serves and Worship only the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth – The One and Only True God Who Has no partner(s) or other God(s)/god(s) besides HIM or to be associated along with HIM.
    “Say: “If the ocean were ink (wherewith to write out) the words of my Lord, sooner would ocean be exhausted than would the words of my Lord, even if I add another ocean like it, for its aid”(18:109).

  • Zack

    “Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what I have provided for them”. (2:3).
    “And who believe in the Revelation sent to thee, and sent before thy time (to various Messengers/Prophets),and in their hearts have the assurance of the (Life) Hereafter”
    “They are on true guidance, from their Lord, and it these who will prosper”(2:5).

  • tracy

    I think it is more logical that Noah had more important things to do , start gardens , take care of his family and the animals in need, than to disasemble perfectly good and secure shelter, such as the Ark . The Ark could acomidate his family for generations . Plus I think Noah kept the Ark in one piece as an Memorial to GOD

  • Pat

    I never thought of the points that you bring out. We know a Bible student and teacher who believes he touched the ark. He went with a group to a glacier in the mountains of Turkey where a large wooden object was well preserved. But, now that you mention the possibility that Noah would have used the ark to build homes, I really doubt it. We have thought that God would keep the ark from being found if it existed for the reason that you cite. Thank you,Pat B

  • Stephen Ray Hale

    None of the major artifacts INCLUDING THE TEMPLE are in existence today. If the temple was completely obliterated…perhaps there is an analogy. By the way…I do not believe the “temple mount” is the site of the temple. There is better proof for the current site is Fort Antonia – perfect in size for a high end Roman camp. And there is about 10,000 still standing stones in that site and Jesus said there would be NONE left standing, including those of the city. In that Fort Antonia would have the status of an embassy or consulate, it would not even have been considered part of Jerusalem, making the report of Jesus, faultless and accurate. But about 600 feet south of the most southern wall of the compound is an area called the Ophel, and the temple would have hung over both sides, with the southeast corner of the temple having to reach all the way to the bottom of the Kidron valley. And it would be above the one and only living spring, the Gihon. It would also be below the level where the aquaducts would supply adaquate water to the temple for washing away the blood of sacrifices. The neatest thing is that there would be no muslim artifact in that site, and the Jews could raise a temple there without interfering with any of the mosques on what would now be the gentile site. The only religous value to the site now is that Jesus was no doubt judged on a platform now covering that rock under the Mosque.

  • Ian Robson

    It really does not matter whether Noah’s ark exists or not! I do not think it bothered Jesus or the Apostles to prove anything by establishing the fact that there was an Ark and there was a flood, but Jesus did warn that ‘the days prior to His coming will be just like the days of Noah. For as in the days before the flood they were eating and drinking,marrying and giving in marriage….and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matt:24:37 & Luke 17:26 and Peter also warns about ‘the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah during the construction of the ark in which a few, that is eight persons were brought safely through the water. 1 Peter 3:20, So we will do well understanding what we need to by taking heed to the warnings rather than speculating as to where the Ark rested and whether it exists today!

  • Zack

    Finding Ark even if fully intact is not likely to benefit the Unbelievers of One God and His Messenger Noah. Most people of Noah denid him and the God of Noah even though they saw the Ark beng crafted in front of them. But they mocked at Noah telling him that he should build the Ark somewhere around the Ocean where it can sail. They mocked at him for crafting the same at inappropriate location close to their habitation. Noah lived for 950 years and his people used to pass on to their chidren and grand children who should pass on to their children to not to ever listen to this old man (Noah)as he is crazy or words to similar effect.
    Even if you find the Ark, they (Atheists and like minded people) are still not going believe in Messenger Noah, and the One True God – their Creator. Scriptures only is the remedy for those whom God wills to guide, they would surely find guidance. But those whose hearts are sealed would not believe.

  • Zack

    God guides not the disbelieving folks!
    What lessons a Believer in One True God – the Creator, should derive from the story of Messenger Noah – the Man of the Ark:
    1) Disbelievers of God and His Messenger were punished in this World – God imposed and executed death penalty by drowning all of the disbelievers including one of Noah’s own son who was among the disbelievers. Also, the Hell (Fire)in the (Everlasting) Hereafter is another grevious penalty awaiting for those drowned to death due to disobedience of God and His Messenger, and due to their denial of the (Life) Hereafter.
    2) Obedience of Messengers is as important as the obedience of God.
    3) Belief in One True God and all of His Messengers is Mandatory upon All Mankind.
    4) We should Understand who God is and who the Messengers of God were – Understand both.

    Let’s see What Messiah Jesus himself says as to Who God is:
    “And the Father Himself, which hath SENT me, hath born witness of me, Ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His Shape”. (John 5:37).

    • pepe


      can you tell me on what Biblical basis do you say one of Noah’s son drowned among the disbelievers?



  • Zack

    Unrighteous Son of Noah, not saved:
    “So the Ark sailed with them on the waves (towering) like mountains, and Noah called out to his son, who had separated himself (from the rest): “O’ my son! embark with us, and be not with the Unbelievers!”. (11:42).
    “The son replied: “I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water”. Noah said: “This day nothing can save, from the Command of Allah, any but those on whom He Has mercy!”-and the waves came between them, and the son was among those who were drowned”. (11:43).
    “Then the word (of Allah) went forth: “O earth! swallow up thy water, and O’ sky! withhold (thy rain)!” And the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: “Away with those who do wrong!” (11:44).
    “And Noah called upon his Lord and said: “O’ my Lord! surely my son is of my family and Thy promise is true, and Thou art the Justest of Judges!” (11:45).
    “He said: “O’Noah! he is not of thy family: for his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of which thou has no knowledge! I give thee counsel, lest thou become one of the ignorants!” (11:46).
    “Noah said: “O’my Lord! I do seek refuge with Thee, from asking Thee for that of which I have no knowledge and unless Thou forgive me and have Mercy on me, I should indeed be among the losers!” (11:47).
    “The word (from Allah) came: “O’ Noah! come down (from the Ark) with Peace from Me, and Blessing on thee and on some of the Peoples (who will spring) from those with thee: but (there will be other) Peoples to whom I shall grant their pleasures (for a time), but in the end will a grievious Chastisement reach them from Me”. (11:48).
    “Such are some of the stories of the Unseen, which I (God) have revealed unto thee: before this, neither you nor your People knew them. So persevere patiently: for the End is for those who are righteous”. (11:49).

    “Say (O Muslims, to the Jews and Christians): We believe in (One and Only God) Allah and that which is revealed to us (i.e. Qur’an) and that which was revealed to Abraham, Issma’eel (Ishma-el), and Iss-ha’aq (Isaac) and their Children; and which Moossa (Moses) and Eessa (Jesus) received (i.e. original Torah and original Gospel (of Jesus) from their Rabb (Lord/Creator). We make no distinction (difference/discrimination) between any of them and unto HIM (i.e. One and Only True God, Allah) we have surrendered (as Muslims in Islam)”. (Holy Qur’an, 2:136).

    “Wa maa ‘alai naa il lal balaa ghul mubeen”.
    Translation from (Arabic) Qur’an: “Our duty is only to deliver the Clear Message (and no more)”. (36:17).

    • Jonathan Sampson

      Zack, while I don’t object to the fact that Noah likely had family die in the flood, I don’t think I would be trusting the Qur’an for my information.

      Christ told us he would be killed, and would rise again after three days. The Qur’an rejects this fact, making Eessa out to be a liar, or a lunatic.

      The Qur’an also makes very poor claims about the Old Testament, destroying any credibility it may have had otherwise. If I were you, I would call on Christ to forgive you on your sins, and reconcile you to the Father who sent Him.

  • Zack

    “Do they (Unbelievers) not Ponder on “Qur’an”? Had it been from other than Allah (God), they would surely have found therein much discrepancy”. (4:82).
    “Say: “What is most weighty in evidence?” “Say (O’ Muhammad): Allah is witness between me and you; this Qur’an has been revealed to me by inspiration. That I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can you possibly bear witness that besides Allah there are other God(s)/god(s)?” Say: Nay! I cannot bear witness!” Say: But in truth He is the One God. And I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with HIM”. (6:19).
    “Those to whom I have given the Book (Torah) know this (Messenger)as they know their own sons. Those who have lost their own souls refuse therefore to believe”. (6:20).
    “And if ye are in doubt as to what I have revealed from time to time to My servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (if there are any) besides Allah, if ye are truthful”. (2:23).
    “But if ye cannot – and of a surety ye cannot – then fear the Fire whose fuel is Men and Stones,-which is prepared for those who reject Faith” (2:24).
    “(Qur’an)-“No falsehood can approach it from before or from behind it. It is sent down by ONE (ALLAH) full of Wisdom, worthy of all praise”. ((41:42). Qur’an – “Shaytan (Satan) did not bring it down”. (26:210 & 211). Quran confirms previous (original) revelations. (2:41, 2:89, 2:101, 26:196, 35:31, not of the present Torah and Gospel 5:14). Quranic message is same message as of earlier Prophets. (41:43, 43:44 & 45). “But they (Jews and Christians) forgot a good part of the Message (of Torah, Zaboor, and Injeel) that was originally sent to them”. (5:14).
    Qur’an-Earnestly seek to understand it. Do not lock up your hearts. (47:24).
    “The Jews call Uzair (Ezra) a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the Son of Allah. That is a saying from their (own) mouth; in this they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. —–” (9:30). “Narrated Abu Huaira r: Muhammad, peace be upon him, the Messenger of Allah said, “Both in this World and in the Hereafter, I am the nearest of all the people to Eessa (Jesus), the son of Maryam. The Prophets are paternal brothers; their mothers are different, but their religion is One (Islam, to worship the only One True God, ALLAH without joining any partner(s) or god(s) with HIM). (Book of the Stories of Prophets, 4:651 & 4:652).
    “Or do they say, He (Muhammad) forged it”? Say: “Bring then a Sura like unto it, and call to your aid anyone you can, besides Allah, if it be ye speak the truth!”(10:38).
    “Generations before you, I (God) destroyed when they did wrong: their Messengers came to them with clear Signs, but they would not believe! Thus do I requite those who sin!” (10:13). “Or they may say, “He (Muhammad) forged it”. Say: “Bring ye then ten Surahs forged, like unto it, and call to your aid whomsoever ye can, other than Allah!-if ye speak thetruth!” (11:13).

  • Tom

    While it is true that the Bible record says; “And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.”(Genesis 8:4) Now, I will be the first to say I don’t know a thing about the mountains of Ararat, however, I do know how to read! Now look at verse 5 in this chapter; “And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.”

    Now, lets look at this. As I said, I don’t know a thing about those mountains, but the Encyclopedia Britannica states that Mount Ararat has two peaks: Greater Ararat (the tallest peak in Turkey, and the entire Armenian plateau with an elevation of 5,137 m/16,854 ft) and Lesser Ararat (with an elevation of 3,896 m/12,782 ft). Thus, this says that Mount Ararat, by either peak is the highest mountain in the area. And what do learn from the two above scriptures? We learned that the Ark set down on the hughest mountain in the area because it was about 2 and one half mounts before the other mountians came into view. I would conclude from that, thet the Ark indeed, did set down on the highest peak in the mountains of Ararat, and that over two months of the water falling before the others were seen says the ark was indeed on Mount Ararat.

    Of course, there could have been a higher peak in those days, but that is highly doubtful.

  • Zack

    Tom: Higher the altitude more problems such as extreme cold weather and lack of oxygen. I am sure God surely would have considered the comfort of those saved.
    Mount Judi is located where the borders of Turkey, Iran and Ukrain meet and possibly part of same Mountain range or Mountains of Ararat.

  • Zack

    Those who are looking to find “ONENESS OF GOD” will find it from Bible with the Grace of Almighty ONE God. However, those who will seek for “Threeness in God” will NEVER find “ONENESS of GOd”. Oneness of God is also proved both in Torah, Zaboor (Psalms) and (Arabic) Qur’an, in additional to truthful teachings of Jesus in the Gospel.

  • Zack

    Jonathan Sampson’s feelings that Qur’an makes Christ Jesus a liar, is incorrect. Tell me the reference where it says Jesus (on whom be peace) was a liar. In fact Qur’an repeatedly warns People of the Book (Jews and Christians) that both Moses and Jesus were revealed truthful revelations including Ten Commandments from Allah. However, the only problem is that unfortunately there is none of the Gospels curently exist that is according to Jesus. Gospels currently available are either according to Mathhew, Mark, Luke, or John or Paul. Many of the statements are heresays. Though there are yet many truthful teachings of Jesus available. But as regards faith it becomes like searching a needle in a haystack. That’s perhaps one of the reasons younger generations of Christians are totally turning away from Bible and become Atheists which is a worse situation, as Atheists don’t believe in (Life) Hereafter either. (Arabic)Qur’an is the only revelation today availbale to all mankind as accurate and pure and Final Word of God as it was revealed more than 14 centuries ago. Holy Qur’an did not come to condemn earlier truthful original scriptures. In fact it guards previous scriptures in safety as God states in Qur’an. (Arabic) Qura’an also acts as an Arbiter between Jews and Christians and brings both back to original Message of God revealed to Jesus, Moses and Abraham. Hence Qur’an calls Islam “The Religion of Abraham”. “Religion of Truth”, “Religion of Allah” and “Straight Way”. and brings harmony among mankind rather than divisions.

    • Jonathan Sampson

      Zack, Christ (Isa) told us He would lay down His life for His sheep (John 10:15), be crucified, and would be raised again on the third day (Luke 9:22). The Qur’an denies that Isa was killed (4:157), making Him out to be a liar.

      If you wish to respond, please be specific and to the point.

  • Zack

    Let me be very specific.
    “Behold! Allah said: “O Jesus! I will take the and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of the falsehoods of those who blaspheme: I will make those who follow thee (Christ) superior to those who reject Faith, to the Day of Resurrection: then shall ye return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute. (3:55).
    According to above verse its Muslims who truly follow the Christ, Qur’an makes it crystal clear.
    Christ (Messiah) Jesus was saved and raised:
    “They (opponents of Jesus) said in boast, “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”; but they killed him not, nor crucified him. Only a likeness of that was shown to them. And those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no certain knowledge. But only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they (opponets of Jesus) killed him not”. “Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. (4:157 & 158). Verse 4:157 above tells us that it was not Muslims (i.e. the then followers of Christ) who claimed Jesus death on cross but in reality it was enemy/opponents claim. Which Claim is more authentic?? Opponents'(enemies of Jesus) Claim or Claim of God?
    Those who deny the truth about Jesus, to such people Jesus would say: “I never knew you!”.

    • Jonathan Sampson

      Zack, you only confirmed the very thing I stated to be true in the first place. Jesus told us He would die, and be raised on the third day. Muhammad, coming around 600 years later, denies this making Jesus out to be a liar.

  • Zack

    Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with HIM; but He forgives anything else, to whom He pleases; to se up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most henious indeed”. (4:48).
    “I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive”. (John 5:43).

    • Jonathan Sampson

      Zack, you’re not even on topic. We’re not talking about the Trinity, we’re talking about the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.

      Let me quote my earlier post:

      Christ (Isa) told us He would lay down His life for His sheep (John 10:15), be crucified, and would be raised again on the third day (Luke 9:22). The Qur’an denies that Isa was killed (4:157), making Him out to be a liar.

      Is Isa (Christ) a liar? The Qur’an suggests He is.

  • Zack

    There is not even a single verse in Holy Qur’an saying any previous Messengers/Prophets were liar.
    “From those who call themselves Christians, we did take a covenant but they (Christians) forgot a good part of Message that was sent to them, ———.” (5:14). This means original “Injeel” that was revealed is lost or missing, that’s wahat “they (Christians)forgot a good part of the Message” means and its self explanatory. I can understand it happened variety of reasons: “Injeel” was never put down in writing during Jesus time when he was here on Earth. He used to preach verbally as he knew the whole of “Injeel” by heart as a Miracle. Not just that he knew Torah and Ten Commandments as well. As a child he used to go to Temple to teach the the same to Jews. “Injeel” (Original Gospel) was revealed in Aramaic language which is not a living language now. English was not even existing. Difference is obvious due to variations in meanings/Translations etc. along with revisions of Bibles along history. I am not here to insist others that they must believe. People even denied Christ Jesus when they actually saw him delivering Message of ONE ALLAH, and performing Miracles with will (permission) of ALLAH. They denied him as Messenger/Messiah and Sign of God.

  • Zack

    “When Eessa (Jesus) found Unbelief on their (Opponents) part, He (Jesus) said: “Who will be my helpers to/with work of ALLAH?” Replied the Disciples: “We believe in ALLAH, and do thou bear witness That we are Muslims and submit to ALLAH only (in Islam)”. (111:52).

  • jh1289

    I don’t oppose the idea that Noah’s Ark existed. However, I don’t understand the time discrepancy with Adam & Eve versus the dinosaurs. It makes me very skeptical.

  • Olivia

    Thank you for pointing out the correct interpretation of the location of Noah’s Ark. The land of Urartu “ararat” is a large region which corresponds more accurately to the Bible’s words of “mountains of Ararat”.

  • Prof

    And you should be skeptical since all the stories and characters in the bible are made up. Mythical stories which only occurred in the fantasies of the authors!

    • Larry Leighton

      What’s your proof?

      • Larry Leighton

        Personally, I think anyone as intelligent as a God who could create a universe simply with a word, would have to devise a way to explain this to people of limited intelligence.

  • dan

    Noah’s ark would be much older than the oldest ruines of ancient Egypt. These STONE monuments are now very decayed. And they are in a dry desert enviornment. Noah’s ark was made of wood and was most likely recyled for wood, etc. Now lets take into consideration that the ark (and or its remains) were left out in the elements with out any maintence for thousands of years and subject to countless generations of souvioneer hunters and people who just saw the ark’s remains as a source of free cut timbers. Over time it would collaps upon its selfe and decompose into a compose heap that would be covered by top soil. It most likely turned to dust long before the time of Jesus.

  • drfossil

    Mt. St. Helens—May 18th, 1980. Post-eruption, Spirit Lake has thousands, maybe millions, of floating logs. This is exactly what would have happened during the flood—water recedes, logs everywhere! Why disassemble the Ark—glue/pitch/etc., then haul down a mountain? Totally unecessary.

  • Charity

    People have, for thousands of years, climbed THE Mount Ararat and seen a portion of the ark jutting out of a glacier of ice that has preserved it. The ark can be seen only during rare very warm summers when the ice melts back somewhat. The wood of the ark is now PETRIFIED and preserved in the ice, protected from the elements. George Hagopian, an Armenian, climbed Mt. Ararat with his uncle and also climbed up on top of the ark. He looked into the dark hole at the top. He said the he could see the grain of the wood and that it is hard like rock. His story was proved the truth by lie detector tests. Read about it in Secrets of the Lost Races by Rene Noorbergen. Others have seen inside the ark cages of all sizes with iron bars. Josephus the Jewish historian wrote that the ark could be seen in his time. The ark is said to be resting on a 3,000 foot wide ledge on the north side of the mountain. The “mountains of Ararat” mentioned in the Bible are correct because geologists have discovered the sunken cauldrons of volcanic mountains next to Mt. Ararat that have since collapsed, much like the volcano at Yellowstone Park.

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