Jim M. from Japan writes:

I’m reading a website now that claims to debunk young earth creationist ideas and I came across the following claim:

Here is the website: [Weblink removed as per feedback rules—Ed.]

I think it is connected in some way with Hugh Ross, but anyway …

As you can see, it is about death before the fall. In it he says this:

“Genesis 1:29–30 says that God created plants with seed and fruit and gave it to the animals for food. However, the verse does not say that all animals ate only plants. It merely says that the plants were given as food. Ultimately, all animals rely upon plants for food—even the carnivores. In addition, this decree was never rescinded as it was for humans. There is no verse in the Bible stating that animals could, at some point, start eating meat. Genesis 1:29-30 applies only to a specific class of animals. The text indicates that plants were given to the nephesh creatures—those that have a soul (mind, will, and emotion). A partial list is given, including the beasts of the field, the birds, and the creatures that creep around. Notably missing from the list are the large creatures of the sea, created on the fifth day. With few exceptions, these animals are all carnivores. Did God make them starve until after the Fall? Finally, as we shall see, Genesis 2 specifically tells us that animals did eat each other prior to the Fall.

“God created the carnivores on day 6, before mankind.

“Genesis one specifically describes the creation of wild animals, which are the carnivores. The Hebrew words used to describe the creation of these animals refers to animals that eat other animals (for more information, see Did God Create Carnivores on Day 6?).

“Adam named the animals, using terms that described their carnivorous activity.

“Before the creation of Eve, God brought the animals before Adam for him to name. The text makes it clear that Adam, and not God, named the animals. This is important for an understanding of what Adam had seen prior to the Fall. If the young earth creationists are correct, one would expect the names of the carnivores to reflect the non-carnivorous activities of these creatures prior to the Fall. However, Adam gave some very unusual names to some of the carnivores. For example, the Hebrew name for lion is derived from the Hebrew root that means ‘in the sense of violence.’ Was Adam referring to the violence with which the lion ate its vegetables? It doesn’t seem likely!….

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